A double bill of interviews with a couple of writers and academics who's work in different ways play on ideas of philosophy and literature.

Lars Iyer is a lecturer in philosophy at the University of Newcastle upon Tyne. He is the author of two books on the philosopher Maurice Blanchot (Blanchot's Communism: Art, Philosophy, Politics and Blanchot's Vigilance: Phenomenology, Literature, Ethics) as well as a trilogy of novels or works of ‘autofiction': Spurious, Dogma and the recently published Exodus.

Joe Milutis is a writer, media artist, and Assistant Professor of Interdisciplinary Arts at the University of Washington-Bothell. His writing includes various literary-media hybrids, including digital essays, performance, and installation. He is a contributor to magazines such as Cabinet, Triple Canopy, and Film Comment among others. He is the author of Ether: The Nothing That Connects Everything, and his latest book is Failure: A Writer's Life.

First broadcast on 19th April 2013.